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August 03, 2008


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Zoe Winters

It's already flooded. But I think as more shopping moves to online instead of brick and mortar stores, the landscape changes a bit. Like there may be a billion choices on Amazon, but you aren't really faced with that many in your face when you go to the site. You either know what you want, or you use the search feature.

Grant Stone

That's very true and it's also why we need an indie writer's conference to separate the wheat from the chaff. Otherwise we're left with the publishers deciding who to publish and who not to and good writers are left on the sidelines.

R.J. Keller

"Dumb it down...simple system...paint-by-numbers..."

I kept waiting for the punchline. I thought it was satire. How disturbing.

I suppose, though, that's what so much of modern fiction already is.

Grant Stone


I guess if you're looking to make money off of teaching people how to write, she's got a simple minded way of teaching and earning.

I almost want to say, "Dang, wish I had thought of that." But, my wife says I'm a lousy teacher and I should stick with just writing.

Oh well, such is life.

Zoe Winters

Grant I suspect that some Indies are going to becomes small publishers in their own right. If you check out http://www.jeremyrobinsononline.com He started out completely indie under his own imprint, then he started publishing other authors.

As for being picked up by a major publisher, I think as time goes on, more publishers are going to be picking up successful indies over total unknowns, at least for the better book deals.

If you sell thousands of copies (the more over 10,000 the better) of something on your own, most publishers start to see the dollar signs and potential because they know the obstacles you had to fight through to get there.

Grant Stone


I stumbled onto Jeremy's blog a couple of weeks ago, but didn't think of looking for his website. I had put him on my bloglines feeds. Reading his bio and faqs makes me want to really get moving on finishing my novel. I keep letting everything else get in my way.

I've spoken to several other authors that have started self-publishing and were picked up by a trade publisher once their book sales were in the low thousands. So, I agree that might be the easier route to take.


Zoe Winters

For me it comes down to this:

Going the traditional route means I MIGHT get a chance to play. Because you aren't really in the game until your work is out there for readers. Considering the fact that not all good books get published and many don't based on marketing decisions which isn't an exact science (note all the books that got published that didn't earn out their advance, and the books that were multiply rejected that later became bestsellers. Clearly everybody's just bullshitting their way through this.)

Going indie means I DO get to play. I at least get a chance to play. I may fail, my book may suck. Maybe no one will read it or buy it. But I took it directly TO the market and I got to be judged BY the market as opposed to gatekeepers of the market.

In a free economy there should be no gatekeepers to art. All artists have the inalienable right to get their work to the people. An approval committee isn't required. I have nothing to say to the committee until and unless I have something to negotiate with.

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